Sunday, January 12, 2014

Master Metals Traders Red Kite Talk Copper

These guys are very, very good at what they do, some of our posts after the jump.
From Bloomberg:
Red Kite Sees Copper Outlook Positive as Ore Swamps Smelters 
Red Kite Group, whose metals fund returned more than 50 percent last year, said copper’s outlook has turned positive as refiners are swamped by supplies of mined ore amid prospects for global economies to strengthen.

Production from mines is exceeding output of refined metal and smelter bottlenecks are unlikely to ease for at least the next six months, according to David Lilley, co-founder of the asset manager, which oversees more than $2.3 billion. He also pointed to prospects for global economic growth to accelerate.

Premiums added to the price of copper on the London Metal Exchange were the highest in more than seven years in Europe in November and tripled in the past year in China, the biggest consumer of the metal, according to Metal Bulletin data. Copper stockpiles monitored by exchanges in London, Shanghai and New York are the lowest since October 2012.

“We haven’t seen the refined-copper market this tight since the 2005-06 period,” Lilley said yesterday by telephone from London. “Inventory is low, premiums are high, and there is difficulty in sourcing refined metal.”

The LME’s benchmark contract for delivery in three months fell 7.2 percent last year, the second annual retreat in three. Stocks of copper tracked by the bourse plunged 46 percent from the 2013 high in June by the end of the year. Global economic growth will accelerate to 2.8 percent this year, economist estimates compiled by Bloomberg show.

Copper Stockpiles
“There has been a three-year downtrend, which we believe is ending, and copper can start trending higher,” Lilley said. “All industrial metals benefit from good global growth. Copper is the one that has the least inventory, and therefore is the most vulnerable.”...MORE 
As an indication of how opaque the business is MetalBulletin reported in November:
Orion Mine Finance, the $1.1 billion mining equity fund spun out from metals trader and hedge fund Red Kite, took a 40% stake in warehouse company Scale Distribution around September.... 
Previously:
UPDATED--Barclays Hit With "Immense" Copper Trading Loss; 50 Sigma Move In Cancelled Aluminum Warrants (50-Sigma events don't happen)

Barclays Capital to Wall Street Journal on Copper Losses: "Nonsense"

Barclays, No Sumitomo here, Copper Traders Whupped by Red Kite (BARC.L)

Red Kite: The Folks Who Bested Barclays' Copper Traders
Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: 
the Lord reward him according to his works
-either 2Timothy4:14 or the Barclays guys
Red Kite Wins Time In Fight Against JP Morgan Copper ETF
Red Kite: "Buy Tin"